Ableton 8 and complex pro warp mode

I had to make a post about this since it drove me nuts for weeks and didn’t find any info about it until I dug deep in Ableton’s forums.

Short story – setting your songs to complex pro warp mode will totally fuck up your live sets.

Long story: I still had barely scratched the surface with what I can do with Ableton 7 LE, but one limitation that really stood out was the warp modes. For warping entire songs for live DJ sets, none of the ones available in 7 LE worked for me. I suppose ‘pitch’ would have been the best but I wanted my songs at their original pitch even when I drastically changed the BPM. Beats mode caused too many stutters. Tones didn’t sound right. Texture seemed a happy medium but that can give you nasty phase effects even when you barely adjust the BPMs.

So I upgrade to Live 8 – the full version and first I started setting everything to Complex. I was worried that Complex Pro would be too much for the processor on this old laptop. Complex seemed cool at first, until I started to listen to it closely. I was warping a simple drum track I recorded from vinyl and there was so much squeaky artifact noise in it that I thought there must have been interference when I recorded it. No, it was just Complex mode doing it’s thing. Listen for yourself (sorry – they are short clips but they are WAVs – for this little demo, I didn’t want to degrade them in the slightest by making them MP3s.)

Original – not warped.

Same track using Complex warp mode

So then I tried Complex Pro. Oh yeah – it sounded perfect. No stutters, no phase effects, no artifacts. The songs sounded great even when you totally jacked around with the BPMs. And my processor meter was sitting pretty at 15-20 percent. So I changed all my tracks to Complex Pro and used that for my sets on Infinity Tunes. And every week, 15-20 minutes into the set – disaster. I’d start a new song and all audio would stop for about a quarter of a second. And it would do that every time I started or stopped a track. And every time, the delay would get just a little longer. Yeah, it’s 2011 and I’m getting full second gaps in my live DJ sets. Not fucking cool.

So why was this happening? Complex Pro. I haven’t found a good technical explanation (besides the obvious – it’s a huge bug!) of why this happens but even though two or three tracks playing at once only uses up 20 percent or so of processor power, starting (or even stopping) a track warped with Complex Pro will cause your processor usage to spike – to such a great degree that all audio needs to stop for a bit to allow the CPU to catch up.

I would cut the Ableton devs some slack and say – ok, Complex Pro needs a lot of CPU power, I need to deal with it. But then it should do that from the very first track – and it doesn’t. My sets would be fine for at least 10 minutes – then things would collapse.

So I’m back to Texture mode for playing live. I can record the sets and change everything to Complex Pro later and export the audio then. It’s a crappy solution but it’s the best one I have right now. So if you’re listening to me live and it sounds good, but not great – wait for the download. It will sound much better.

Infinity Tunes – 02/05/2010

The blog isn’t dead – it was just napping.
I’m still doing Saturday and Sunday shows on Infinity Tunes – evenings in the UK which makes them afternoon shows for me and the United States crowd.
I’m trying to coordinate a show for the United States evening crowd (and the UK night owls) – once I figure out a good time for that, it will probably be 80s house/techno turntable sets so people can get on the chat board and give me requests.

I had a pretty good set going last Saturday and was looking forward to posting a nice high quality mp3 of it here and on other sites. But it was an Ableton set and Ableton crashed hard 1:45 into the 2 hour set and all was lost on my end. But I was recording it on Ustream so can listen to it here. I hate only having a Ustream link since it records in mono and screws up a lot of songs (Hey – where did the vocals go in Life Is Sweet?).

Here’s the set list:
Utada – You Make Me Want To Be A Man
BassNectar – Blue State Riddm
Beborn Beton – Time To Leave You
Chemical Brothers – Song To The Siren
Fischerspooner – Never Win
New Order – Bizarre Love Triangle
Tears For Fears – Pale Shelter
Headrillaz – If I Let You Live
Cut Copy – Saturdays
A Skillz & Beatvandals – Simply Playing
PlayRadioPlay! – At This Particular Moment In Time
Chemical Brothers – Chemical Beats
Praga Khan – Stoned On Your Love
Tobias Tinker – Tiga
The Blue Nile – She Saw The World
Beborn Beton – Another World
Chemical Brothers – Life Is Sweet
Headrillaz – Get Yourself Organized
Fluke – Absurd (Remix)
Jean Paul Bondy – Cold Reformer (Product 01 Remix)
Orbital – Know Where To Run
U96 – Das Boot
Chemical Brothers – Three Little Birdies Down Beats
Daft Punk – One More Time
Geri Halliwell – Love Never Loved Me
Kylie Minogue – Come Into My World
Sunscreem – Your Hands
Mr V – Da Bump
Headrillaz – Weird Planet
Covenant – Tension
The Cruxshadows – Tears (Apoptygma Berzerk Remix)
Reggie And The Full Effect – Laura’s Australian Dance Party
Covenant – Brave New World
Praga Khan – Look At Me Now
Headscan – Arrache-Moi
Abigail – Constant Craving
Telex – Moskow Diskow
Prodigy – Spitfire (Future Funk Remix)
Sunscreem – Psycho
Headrillaz – Hot N Bovvud
Girls Aloud – Untouchable
**CRASH!** / Young Love – Underneath The Night Sky

Ableton 80s house/techno mix – Infinity Tunes – 12/04/10

My Ableton dabbling continues.
I’ve mixed in some 80s house with other stuff in previous weeks on my Infinity Tunes mixes but this week, I did an entire set of 80s house and techno. (Well, almost – I ran out of songs near the end and threw in some Shamen, Pendulum, and Vex’d.)
I was very happy with the way this mix turned out. This is what makes Ableton so cool. I just scratched the surface of what it’s capable of in this mix but still got some very sweet results, including some sections where I mixed 3 songs at once.

I’m trying to embed the mix but House-Mixes’ embed won’t work. Fix yo shit, House-Mixes!

Here’s a link to the mix

The tracklist:
Fresh – Dum-Dum
Phuture – Phuture Jacks
Debbie Harry – Feel The Spin
The Rude Boy Farley Keith – Give Your House To Me
Bad Boy Bill – I Can’t Wait For Love
Quest – Mind Games
Mickey Oliver – In-Ten-Si-T
Kenny Jammin Jason with Fast Eddie Smith – Can U Dance
Full House – Communicate
Mario Reyes – Whatever Turns You On
Rhythim Is Rhythim – Nude Photo
Maurice – Get Into The Dance
Mr Lee – Get Busy
Fingers Inc – Mystery Of Love
Mix N Tel – Feel The Beat
Bad Boy Bill – A Night On A Trip
Mr Lee – Come To House
Reese And Santonio – The Sound
Ramos – Jackin’ National Anthem
Ralphi Rosario – You Used To Hold Me
Bad Boy Bill – Acid Sexx
Reese And Santonio – Bounce Your Body To The Box
Mr Lee – House This House
Rhythim Is Rhythim – Unnamed
Mike Dunn – Life Goes On
Mr Lee – Acid Pump Up London
Rhythim Is Rhythim – Strings Of Life
A-ha – The Sun Always Shines On TV
Mayday – Wiggin
MDIII – Personal Problem
Reese And Santonio – Force Field
Mayday – Nude Photo 88
Jesse Velez – Girls Out On The Floor
Mayday – Sinister
Rhythim Is Rhythim – Move It
Mayday – Freestyle
Jackstreet Inc – Break It Down
Jackstreet Inc – Calypso Underground
No Name – Hypnotic House
Jackstreet Inc – Can’t Do It Alone
MDIII – Face The Nation
Mike Dunn – So Let It Be Houze
Mike Dunn – Magic Feet
Frankie Knuckles – Baby Wants To Ride
Rhythim Is Rhythim – Kaos
Shamen – Sativa 98
Pendulum – Fasten Your Seatbelts
Vex’d – Slime
Vex’d – Pop Pop VIP

Infinity Tunes – 80s Chicago house turntable mix – 11/13/2010

Here’s a turntable mix I did live on Infinity Tunes a few weeks ago. I dug through my crates and used a few tunes that I haven’t used in quite a while. The occasional skips/jumps are because of internet streaming hiccups, not because my records skip!

I can’t get this damn thing to embed without autoplaying – and any website that autoplays anything needs to be nuked from orbit.

(Update – December 2011. Another mix missing from Ustream. Again – not missing much with this one.)

Song list:
Tikkle – In The Beginning
Adonis – No Way Back
K Alexi – Don’t Cha Want It
Nexus 1 – Yo Body
Jack Master Funk – Jack The Bass
Modern Mechanical Music – Persia
Mark Imperial And Dennis Ramirez – Rock This House
Red Parrot 228 – Beat Track 18
Souled Out – Go House Yourself
Phuture – The Creator
Reese & Santonio – The Sound
Fantasy Club – Mystery Girl
Bang The Party – Release The Acid
Channel One – Technicolor
House Gang – Work My Body
Mr Lee – Pump Up Chicago
Virgo – Virgo Four
Lil Louis – French Kiss
J.M. Silk – I Can’t Turn Around
Frankie Hollywood And The Heat – Feel The Fire Remix
Mark Imperial – Jadore Danser
LNR – It’s A Mystery To Me
Mr Lee – Rock This Place
Pierre’s Pfantasy Club – Fantasy Girl
MTS 2 – Crash MTS
Reese And Santonio – Bounce Your Body To The Box
Fast Eddie – The Whop
K OS – Definition Of Love
The Unknown – Get On It
House Master Baldwin – Don’t Lead Me Remix
Seperate Minds – 1st Bass
Mike Dunn – Magic Feet
Razz – Say It
Lidell Townsell – Get The Hole
Mr Lee – House This House
New Order – Fine Time
Fast Eddie – Yo Yo Get Funky
Inner City – Do You Love What You Feel
Revoked – Pieces
Reese – Rock To The Beat
K Alexi Shelby – My Medusa
Phuture – We Are Phuture
The Bass Boyz – Lost In The Bass
Terry Baldwin – I Have A Dream